Welcome to an inspiring conversation with Jennifer Wilson, the visionary founder of Ocean and Oracle. As a Clinical Hypnotherapist and Astrologer with over a decade of experience, Jennifer has dedicated her career to empowering women around the globe to release what no longer serves them and step into lives of confidence, happiness, and abundance. Her unique approach integrates both conscious and subconscious healing techniques, offering a holistic path to personal transformation. With a deep-seated belief in the potential for positive change in every moment, Jennifer is here to help you unlock the best version of yourself and achieve your dream life.
Jennifer’s journey into the world of clinical hypnotherapy and astrology began with her own quest for healing and self-discovery. From her early experiences with Reiki to her transformative encounter with hypnotherapy that alleviated her anxiety, Jennifer has drawn from her personal challenges to guide others. Her fascination with astrology, which started as a personal interest, evolved into a profound tool for understanding life’s patterns and fostering growth. Through her services, Jennifer merges these insights to create a powerful synergy that addresses both the conscious and subconscious aspects of the self, ensuring sustainable progress for her clients.
In this interview, Jennifer will share insights into her transformative methods, including her popular Intuition Accelerator course, and provide a glimpse into her future plans for Ocean and Oracle. She’ll also discuss how she maintains a deep connection with her clients despite the virtual nature of her sessions and the daily practices that keep her aligned and thriving. Whether you’re looking to overcome past limitations or simply seeking to enhance your intuitive abilities, Jennifer’s expertise and passion promise to inspire and guide you on your journey towards a fulfilling and vibrant life.
1. Can you tell us about your journey into becoming a clinical hypnotherapist and astrologer? What inspired you to pursue these paths?
Every modality I use, I started out as a client first. I saw how implementing these techniques into my life changed it for the better, and through this experience, I was drawn to learn them myself to support my clients in making positive shifts in their lives. Before becoming an astrologer and clinical hypnotherapist, I was offering Reiki as my main healing modality.
Anxiety was what drew me to clinical hypnotherapy and has been a key instrument in my journey with releasing anxiety. The subconscious mind has more power over our thoughts, feelings, and decisions than people realize. The subconscious mind houses what are called implicit memories, which can go all the way back to childhood, even infancy, and these memories directly affect your quality of life as an adult. They completely shape your thoughts, emotions, actions, and ability to make choices in alignment with your highest good, and these are memories you may not even be consciously aware of. They are tucked away in the depths of your subconscious, and even though you do not have any conscious awareness of them, they are playing a huge role in your current life.
Using clinical hypnotherapy, I was able to remove and shift some of these implicit memories that were causing a lot of anxious thoughts and emotions. My life has been on an upward trajectory since then. When we are able to live in a positive space, life flows in a positive way. Countless clients have also seen positive results with this technique through clinical hypnotherapy.
My journey with astrology was different. It was something I was always drawn to, but I had no idea how in-depth it went. The more I learned, the more I wanted to learn. The guidance and insight my own birth chart provided not only created stepping stones for me to move into a phase of life that felt amazing but also led to my business flourishing in a different way, my mental health improving, and life starting to make sense. It allowed me to relax into a flow of trusting the process, and life kept getting better and better. This is what led me to offer guidance from astrology as a service.
2. You mention helping women release what no longer serves them. Could you share a specific example of a client success story where your methods made a significant impact?
Absolutely, I would love to! I have worked with so many amazing women over the years that it is hard to choose just one. The first client that comes to mind is someone I helped unlearn passive communication tactics she picked up in childhood. She was at a phase where her marriage was failing because of this (communication is such an important foundation for any successful relationship), and she knew she wanted to work on fixing her relationship but didn’t know how. By releasing implicit memories in her subconscious and helping her leverage her strengths outlined in her birth chart, she was able to not only step into a confident version of herself that she loved but also improve her communication and her husband’s communication. Her marriage started to flourish, and she is now teaching her children and extended family the importance of open and honest communication, even when it feels hard. This is the power of healing—you don’t just heal yourself; you are able to help heal those around you too.
3. What strategies do you use to ensure the sustainability of results for your clients, especially in a virtual setting where personal accountability may vary?
Whether a session is virtual or in-person, there is always a level of accountability needed from the individual seeking growth. I am able to support, guide, and teach my clients the tools to improve their quality of life, but ultimately, it is up to them if they want to make the necessary changes and take the necessary steps to get the results they want. Clients who come to me truly wanting to make major progress toward their goals and dream life are the clients I support with accountability. We work together over six months; each session is catered directly to their needs, as everyone is on their own unique journey. Each session builds off the last, and clients are given key areas to focus on between sessions, which we debrief on at the start of the next session. These clients also have access to me in between sessions to support their growth as an extra layer of accountability. These are the clients I see the most significant growth and progress with, and I am unbelievably proud of each and every one of them. There are no quick fixes when you are looking at achieving sustainable results. You wouldn’t go to the gym and expect to have abs after one session; this is no different.
4. Your approach emphasizes aligning both the conscious and subconscious mind. How do you integrate these two aspects in your sessions to achieve lasting results?
I love this question. The conscious and subconscious mind are both equally powerful. When you are looking to make major forward progression in any area of your life, there needs to be shifts and growth in both areas. Your thoughts and words have a tremendous impact on what unfolds in your life, more than most people realize. If you are only working with the subconscious mind but allowing the conscious mind to run wild with negative or limiting beliefs, this will create a misalignment in energy and make the forward progression you seek much harder. Conversely, if you are only working with the conscious mind and not the subconscious mind, there is a high potential that you are putting in a lot of effort with no forward movement because there is a block in your subconscious or a negative thought pattern running in the background, creating a misalignment in energy that hinders you from moving forward.
Major growth comes from working with both the conscious and subconscious mind, creating a match in energetic frequency (also known as vibrational alignment). This is where you are able to attract positive outcomes into your life. The law of attraction is very real, as real as the law of gravity. What you put out, you will get back.
5. Could you elaborate on the Intuition Accelerator course and its benefits for those looking to enhance their intuitive abilities?
Absolutely! The technique I teach in the Intuition Accelerator is one of the first things I teach clients I work with on a six-month basis. We all have the ability to access our internal compass, which is our intuition; many of us simply go through life letting this lay dormant within us. The reason this is so important is that when you make decisions through intuition, you move yourself forward on a path toward alignment and abundance. When you make decisions through fear or ego (it can often be tricky to tell the difference between intuition and fear), this is where you are actually moving yourself away from where you want to be. This course teaches you to understand the difference between fear and ego, how to identify when you are making fear-based or intuitive choices, and how to open the communication between you and your higher self, which is your purest form of intuition. No one knows better for you than your higher self.
We often make fear-based decisions to keep ourselves “safe” because the unknown can feel uncomfortable. These decisions feel logical and are based on previous experiences. They are often what you feel must be done because it “makes sense.” When I finally learned how to make decisions through my intuition (instead of fear/ego), it completely changed the trajectory of my life and my quality of life. When decisions are made through fear or ego, you open yourself up to patterns repeating themselves or situations that keep you stuck, leaving you lingering in the phase of life you are trying to escape or avoid. When you make choices through your intuition, you catapult yourself forward toward your highest alignment. When you live in alignment, life starts to flow in the direction it’s meant to.
By following my intuition, I created the space to completely change my life. I shifted from a corporate career to one that lights me up every day while allowing me the freedom to travel all over the world. I absolutely love my job (something I never thought I would be able to say). If I can step into my dream life and live a life I am obsessed with, so can you. The Intuition Accelerator is a great support in getting there. I would not be where I am today without it.
6. Looking ahead, what are your future goals for Ocean and Oracle? Are there any new services or initiatives on the horizon?
As I grow, my business grows as well. I am a manifesting generator in human design, so there is never a shortage of ideas. I recently updated the Applied Astrology Digital Course, expanding its content by adding four more weeks of material. I have learned that change is an asset to my business, and when I listen to the intuitive nudges I receive, magic happens. There are a few new things I am working on in the background that will be out later this year. I have also started to partner with different independent businesses to run workshops within their coaching platforms, which has been so much fun! Although much of the future remains unknown, one thing I can guarantee is that I will always bring courses and services to you that I 100% believe in and have experienced the positive impacts of myself first.
7. Outside of your professional life, what hobbies or interests do you pursue that bring you joy and balance?
Absolutely anything to do with the ocean is where I am the happiest. I grew up on the Great Lakes in Canada and learned how to drive a boat when I was nine. I have always been drawn to water. When I am not working, you can find me diving, swimming, surfing, boating, hiking the New Zealand coast, or simply sitting by the sea, watching the waves and hoping to spot marine life. Most recently, we had orcas roughly four meters from shore in front of the house. It was absolutely incredible!
8. How do you maintain a sense of connection and community with your clients despite the virtual nature of your sessions?
One of my gifts in this life is being empathic, which allows me to connect with my clients on a deep level of understanding, regardless of whether they are in a chair beside me or on the other side of the world. Energy is energy, regardless of the distance involved. For those familiar with astrology, my MC is in the water sign of Cancer. For those new to this term, the MC outlines strengths and areas of success in your career. Cancer is all about intuition and creating a safe and nurturing space. One consistent piece of feedback from my clients is that I create a safe place to share and be vulnerable. I know a big part of my purpose is to heal my own experiences and, through this, help others do the same. The connection with my clients comes naturally and organically, and it is always the most beautiful energy to be in!
9. What daily habits or rituals do you practice that contribute to your own sense of alignment and well-being?
I always start the day with a positive affirmation about what I would like to accomplish for that day. It helps me visualize the outcome I want to attract. Daily movement is also non-negotiable. If I am not able to get a workout in, I make sure to go for a walk. I keep myself hydrated by drinking lots of water throughout the day, and I also invest in my well-being by working with a counselor in the same capacity I work with my clients. I cannot hold space for as many people as I do without someone holding space for me. Part of my job is making sure I am able to be the best version of myself so I can support others in being their best versions.
10. What advice would you give to women who are hesitant to pursue their dreams or make significant changes in their lives?
I would tell them that the life they want is 100% available to them, no matter how hard, scary, or unreachable it seems. I went from feeling stuck in a 9-5 job I was miserable in, spending over two hours each day in traffic, and crying frequently because I felt so lost in life, to running my own successful business, enjoying location freedom to travel whenever I want, and having a job that completely lights me up every day. I am not special; I figured it out and now get to help women all over the world take steps toward their goals and dream lives. If you are in a phase of life you don’t want to be in or have recognized steps forward you want to take but are unsure how, I would love to chat and see if I can help you! It is one day or day one, and ultimately, you have to make the choice to take steps forward or reach out for support to help you take these steps. Sometimes, we just need someone to walk alongside us to show us the way before we can walk on our own, and that’s totally okay.
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![From Music to Perfume: How did your background as a music teacher influence your transition into perfumery, and how do you incorporate your musical sensibilities into creating fragrances? I’ve always thought in terms of metaphors, and music has many that can be related to perfumery! Beyond just thinking in terms of top, middle and base notes [soprano/alto/tenor in choir], I approach each fragrant idea as a composition. When documenting my ideas, song structures often come to mind. As the scent brief is visited, I meditate on what the fragrance should convey - do I want to create an accord or a “chord” of fragrance note combinations? Do I want an a capella soloist (a particular ingredient to stand out more than others?) Many of my thoughts regarding song composition transfers to my scent formulation process, with me treating each note as an intentional soliloquy at some point.
Brand Origin: What inspired you to start Pink MahogHany in 2005, and how has your vision for the brand evolved since its inception?
An avid lover of all things pleasantly scented (with slight modesty), looking back in retrospect, it’s no huge surprise that I’ve created an indie perfume house with just an idea to provide unique options for those who may be sensitive to unnecessary pungency. Initially, I just wanted to evaluate various blends to note their aroma profiles when “played” together…it wasn’t until I had friends and family asking if I knew of brands that catered to those who may be on the more olfactory sensitive side, that I really began to take my research more seriously. In the almost 20 years that Pink MahogHany has been in existence, our micro visions for the brand have evolved to larger territory. Where Pink MahogHany used to only be a personal brand, we are now also a bespoke formulation service provider to other indie brands seeking unique fragrance offerings for their products. These products range from (but are not limited to) perfumes, candles, body butters and lip balms. Ingredient Transparency: You emphasize transparency and the use of desirable ingredients in your products. How do you select your ingredients, and what challenges have you faced in maintaining this standard?
Being an indie brand often comes with a set of assumptions and misconceptions - one of them being more negative than positive as it relates to ingredients used. There is a lot of “fluff” in the industry with labeling falsification. Because fragrance formulas are a trade secret, not every molecular breakdown of a material has to be noted on the ingredient label (it would be incredibly long), but we at Pink MahogHany™️ adhere strongly to the IFRA [International Fragrance Regulatory Association] regulations that state for common and potential allergens to be listed on our ingredient label. We’ve taken this a step further to also include these ingredients listed on our website to promote further transparency, all while protecting our intellectual property. Unfortunately, we’ve had companies to unethically sell lesser expensive “dupes” of our artisan perfumes, so as a way to create a better authenticity stamp, we make it our duty to be honest about our claims. If our perfume says “Rose Bulgaria”, it is in fact just that and not a component of rose being passed off as the source material. Collaborations and Custom Scents: Can you share more about your work with private label clients? What excites you most about creating custom scent solutions for other indie brands? I could easily sum this up in one word and say “Funding.” True, there is money out there, but I’m always thinking outside the box. Having a program that has an “Each One Fund One” mentality doesn’t exist (that I’ve been made aware of). Bootstrapping can be quite the challenge, even when you’ve reached the 6-figure mark annually. Competition to be seen and set apart is extremely high, so having quality packaging and branding is a must. There are lots of factors to consider, though when desiring to make upgrades. If there were a unique, tier-geared funding operation available, it would help perfume brands offset packaging and bulk material costs in the beginning stages.
Industry Challenges: What are some of the biggest challenges you've faced as an independent fragrance house, and how have you overcome them to grow your brand? As the brand continues on the path of organic growth, I would like to expand our reach into schools, offering perfumery as an arts elective for middle and high school. I’d love to partner with botanists, farmers and horticulturists directly to grow and source raw materials for the students to work with in the creation of tinctures. My passion is getting back to nature as best as possible, as nature was my first “scent experience” as a child. We would also love to witness our fragrance creations being used to scent model homes, our focus diffuser blends being used in automobile dealerships as well as partner with Air Bnb and boutique hotels that specialize in highlighting minority, indie brands. Personal Journey: How has your personal experience, particularly as a divorced mother and someone who has experienced the loss of a child, shaped your approach to life and your work in perfumery?
Because I homeschool my twin sons, we are together a lot more than most, so one thing we all do is have moments of sharing where a neutral “floor” is laid to converse about anything. Though they are quite communicative by nature, I realize that sometimes I can be in work mode so much that it spills over into what should be our quality time. My sons see the authentic me and learn how to communicate through seeing authenticity. I’ve learned not to feel as if I have to be the epitome of perfection but allow them to see my imperfections vulnerably but with discernment. Having had two traumatic experiences pretty close together has taught me how to truly slow down and enjoy the simplicities of life - igniting a spiritual aspect that I’ve always carried but never fully explored…until Kenji’s sudden passing (2018.) Grief has a way of catapulting us into a quest for more meaningfulness in both life and business. After Kenji’s passing and my processing through the initial stages of grief, I was able to incorporate our spiritual bond into Pink MahogHany by way of essential oil diffuser blends for both focus and sleep and most recently aromatic perfume elixirs. It’s been quite the process channeling the void of his physical presence, but I also have peace knowing he can be honored in a great way through scent. I noticed once I began to be more open and receptive to spiritual signs, synchs and “winks”, more ideas began to flow. It’s been this way since his transition. Emotional Expression: Fragrance is often tied to memories and emotions. How does your personal life influence the fragrances you create, and do you have a particular scent that holds special meaning to you? My creative process is much more alchemic now, and I include Kenji by talking out loud to him, believe it or not. I’m a firm believer that when our loved ones transition from the physical plane, they are still present - just in another form. I choose to keep his memory alive by not pretending he never existed (even if for a brief period of time). I am working (slowly) on a book and accompanying fragrance, but I know it will require me to revisit some memories I’m not quite ready for, so until then, his big brothers will launch their debut fragrance, The Peaceful Tiger (they chose the name.) I’ve learned that even in what we consider “small things”, our transitioned loved ones want to be recognized and acknowledged. When the twins and I designed their fragrance label (with a designer out of the country that didn’t know anything about me personally), we had issues with the graphic - so much so that the designer asked if they could rework the design. When they sent the proof for approval, the Tiger was not only younger but sleeping, with an uncanny, angelic resemblance to baby Kenji! Becoming more aware and being more sensitive to my intention for launching a fragrance has definitely made room for more divine situations like these to occur. Healing Through Scent: In what ways has creating fragrances been a form of healing or expression for you, especially after the loss of your son, Kenji Mwamba? I know my sons may not necessarily want to be perfumers, but they definitely have an entrepreneurial heart. My desire is that whatever they decide to pursue (acting, script-writing, music or architecture), they know that anything is possible with the right amount of determination, grit, belief and immersion. One reason I chose to homeschool is so they could enjoy learning without restraint and have ample time to devote to their own separate passions and it still be fun. They know Pink MahogHany is theirs if they want it (many, many years from now - lol), and we are already discussing business structures for whatever they choose their role to be once I retire. Work-Life Balance: How do you find balance between your professional responsibilities and personal well-being, and what self-care practices do you prioritize? I’m not just a perfumer; I’m also a consumer, and self-care is huge for me. I often take salt baths to reset my energy and clear my mind after being around large groups of people or free a long day. I’m a habitual perfume sampler, and I have so many to choose from to wear as my “nightcap.” Even if just for 10-15 minutes, I cherish each moment I’m able to have some “me-time.” When time and co-parenting schedules permit, I’m definitely on a flight somewhere to indulge in some delicious food and mouth-watering mocktails!](https://www.womenontopp.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/IMG_3812-1200x720.jpeg)
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